Q. I am a FERS employee, and I’m considering buying back my service time; I retired after 23 years in the Army. I am 49 and have five years of federal time as of 2013. Would it be in my best interests to buy back my military time toward federal retirement, and what would be the effects?
A. Here’s the upside: If you make a deposit to get credit for your active-duty service, you’ll have 28 years of creditable service. If you retire at your minimum retirement age (56), you’ll have 35 years of service and your annuity will be 35 percent of your highest three consecutive years of average basic pay. You’ll also be entitled to the special retirement supplement, which approximates the amount of Social Security benefit you earned during those 12 years while you were a FERS employee.
Here’s the downside. To get credit for those years of active-duty service, you’ll have to waive your military retired pay before you retire.
Are you saying that there wouldn’t be a military retirement “waive your military” until you retire?
Yes. The decision about whether to waive your military retired pay doesn’t have to be made until you are about to retire from your civilian job.
Waive your military retirement means you will not get it anymore (ever). You are substituting a FERS Civil Service retirement for the military. I can tell you that it rarely makes sense to do that, unless you retired from the military as a low level enlisted and then retire from Civil Service as a GS-14 or higher, with a lot of years of service.
Thanks for sharing your insight with us.
You get no COLA until age 62.
Government supplement is based on the years you spent in the government, not the time you buy back. My military time was 20 years. My government time was 14. I retired at age 57, having 34 years in total. Although I bought my time back, the government supplement was for 14 government years only, 2/3 less than expected.
Do you keep your military benefits i.e. PX, Commissary and Medical to include VA Disability?
Reg, are you positive about us keeping our other benefits such as commissary privileges, PX, and Tricare? I’m getting ready to retire from the Post Office and I was medically retired from the Army in 1985 (3 yrs, 8 months,) so I can’t make a bad decision here. Adding that 3 yrs, 8 months to my postal time would be an additional $190 a month in my pension but I don’t want to forfeit my other military benefits.
Yes, I am positive. I base my opinion on the words of many others who waived their military retire pay to get credit for that time in their civilian annuity computation.
I still have my military privileges. Buying back only helps you to retire early.
Is this stated in a federal regulation?
You’ll find what you are looking for at 5 CFR 831.301.
If you just started civil service and are in your probationary period, can you buy back 5 years of your military service now and get your career status even though you are on your year probation?
No, you can’t.
Being in a federal office with active duty retirees I was not aware that I, a Navy Reservist with 6 years active and 18 years reserve, could use the six years for both retirements. I discovered this by accident. Active duty 1970 to 1976 the reserve to 1995.
It’s a good thing you did. I hope you made a deposit for that time before the interest payments made it a less attractive prospect.
So, are you allowed to use your military time for both military retirement and fire department retirement? Odontological this double dipping?
No, it isn’t considered to be double dipping. It’s authorized under the law.
4 years air Force service. Mar 1967 -Mar 1971. Any idea on my cost to buy back that time before I retire from the U S. Postal Service. Thank you. BP
To learn the amount of the deposit you’d need to make to get credit for your active duty service, fill out a copy of the Application to Make Service Credit Payment (available at https://www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf3108.pdf), and send it to the Office of Personnel Management. The address is on the form.
Reg, I have retired from the Air Force after 30 years and been in FERS for 7 years, 9 months. Due a sudden illness, I am not eligible to retire early due to 10 year requirement under My current age is 58 years old. I do not want to apply for disability retirement. Is a military time buyback worth it at stage of my life?
Only you can answer that question after you do the math. You’ll have to compare what it would cost your to make the deposit and waive your military retired pay with what you’d gain in an immediate FERS annuity.
Understanding the waiving of military retired pay at CIV service retirement, will this effect va disability if you were Medically retired via med board at 9 years of active military service?
It will have no affect on your VA disability payments.
Just remember, no COLA, until age 62 and
your government supplement is based only on time served in the government, not your total years. Have personnel calculate your numbers and then make your decision.
Are there any services or agencies that will provide a side by side comparison for those of us with a current military retirement to see if it would be beneficial to buyback the military time and apply it to our FERS retirement? I am retired USAF (E6) with 20 years and 5 days in 2005. I was hired back as a GS while on leave prior to retirement. I am eligible to retire MRA+10 at the age of 56yrs 2 mths on 19 Nov 2021 when I will have 16yrs 2.5mths FERS but would lose about 30% of my FERS pension by doing so. Common sense tells me I should just stay in the extra 3yrs 10mths, when I would be 60 and have 20+ yrs towards FERS, but wanting to live life to its fullest and get out while the getting is still good tells me to retire the first day possible. Would I lose any percentage of my FERS retirement at MRA+10 age if I had right at 36 yrs combined service? Since I retired from the USAF as a E6 and will retire from FERS as a GS12 Step 7 – I am wondering if it would behoove me to buy back my military time, lose my current military retirement and add my mil time to my FERS retirement. Decisions decisions decisions. Ugh!
I’m not aware of any services or agencies that could help you. If any of our readers are, please let me know and I’ll share that information with the writer.
Yes. Your personnel office will direct you to the right people or call your finance office.
I’m not aware of a service, either, but really this is a math problem.
SITUATION A (MILITARY RETIREMENT + FERS RETIREMENT)
Military Retirement (E6 @ 20 years)
+ FERS (High 3 @ 16 years @ 1% minus 30% age reduction)
Total Retirement (not counting social security)
SITUATION B (ALL FERS)
FERS (High 3 @ 36 years @ 1%)
Is SITUATION B higher than SITUATION A?
– No. Stop – it isn’t worth it.
– Yes. Well, how much higher? Is it higher enough to justify the deposit you will have to pay?
For example, if SITUATION B is higher by $3,000/year, and the deposit is $9,000, it might be worth it if (A) you can afford the $9,000 and (B) you will live long enough to collect FERS for at least three years.
I recommend you get the deposit amount figured out first. That might take a few months. Then, you have to decide if you will pay the deposit lump sum or by payroll deduction.
As a municipal police officer, I am attempting to buy five years of military time. Will I be asked to forfeit my military retirement pay as well? I’m not due to collect it until age 60, and am having a difficult time trying to find the right computation to find out how much I can expect to pay.
We are only able to answer questions from federal employees and retirees.
While I haven’t yet “done the math” (via the form or attempting to ask the local SME in HRO), from all I read (here and elsewhere) it sounds to me like my CON list would be bigger than my PRO list (for a 55-year-old, retired-after-20-years-in-the-Navy and now a 12-step-10 Fed for the last 2.5 of 11 years in December. Is it that easy or is there more number-crunching than that?
Go ahead and check with your local SME in HRO. If your CON list still comes out bigger than your PRO list, it’s unlikely that there would be other factors that would sway your decision.
I retired from the Navy in 2001 as an E7 with 21 years. I am currently a GS-14 step 3 about 3 years away from retirement. I paid the military deposit and bought back the 21 years. My new Service Date is 5/15/81 Instead of 7/15/2002. So instead of having my Navy retirement for 21 years as an E7 and a 20 years FERS as a GS-14, it made sense for me. The difference in my retirement pay is about 8K per year higher with FERS. It will be much higher if I stick it out until I’m 62. I’ll have the deposit paid back in 2.5 years.
Thanks for sharing your analysis with us. In order to make things work out the way you’ve planned, don’t forget to waive your military retired pay when you get ready to retire from your civilian job.
I retired from active duty AF in 1989 with 4.5 years then joined the DC Air National Guard for 13 years with a little reserves (MIA). I RETIRED in 2007. I got a letter stating that I will recieve military retirement at 60. I brought back the 4.5 active duty. In 2023 I will have a total of 30 years in the post office. My question is did I lose my retirement with the military for the buy back of the 4.5 years active duty.
Making a deposit to get credit for you period of active duty service will have no affect on your entitlement to reserve retired pay.
I work under the fers program and ready to retire I reached my 20 yrs and I don’t want to give up my reserve pay. I put down on my application I don’t want a waiver. How do I get a refund from my time I bought back ?
If you are receiving reserve retired pay, it wouldn’t make any sense to ask for a refund. Leaving your money in the fund will increase the amount of your civilian annuity and won’t have any affect on your reserve retired pay.
If I buy back my Military time, will this affect my Survivors Benefit Plan?
No, it won’t.
for what its worth, i bought back my 4 years of Navy service (1986-1990) and did so with installment plan…just finished paying it off a year ago (paid $125 per payday for about a year)…cost me right at $3100…would have been around $1200 had i bought it within the first 3 years of postal employment…im now 56 with 30+ total years of FERS service and I highly recommend buying it back!
Thanks for sharing your experience with us. Making a deposit to get credit for active duty service can really pay off, especially if its make during the initial 3-year window before interest starts to accumulate.
Reg, hi and thanks for the information. I bought back 20 years (USA Army). I’ve been 10 years in the federal service, hoping to retire in 5 years (total of years would be 35 years). I was able to compare the difference between buying back the time or just getting both. The difference is approximately $800 / month. That said, I will recover my investment of buying back in 20 months, and start getting ROI. The entity that helped making the comparison was “myfedbenefitshelp.com”
Thanks for your feedback and for sharing the site you used to get your comparison.
What if scenario: I have 2 years working for the VA and I bought back 9 years of active duty time, I am 58 years old. What if I get RIF (reduction in force) at year 3 working for the VA. Will I still get the 12 years of federal retirement when I turn 62 and do I lose my buyback?
No, you won’t. You have to have 5 years of actual service to be vested in the retirement system. If you are separated from the service, your only option – if you don’t plan to return to work for the federal government – is to ask for a refund of your contributions to the retirement system and the deposit you made.
Scenario: 24 Years in the Marine Corps E-9. 16 years federal employee GS 14. Planning to retire soon. How does the buy back option affect VA benefits?
OK, here is my situation. I was in the Army from 1979 to 1988. I was honorably discharged. Last January I took a job with the VA as a counselor (GS 11). I went ahead and signed up for the buy back program. I am going to be 60 in January and I really do not want to work past 62. that means I will only have a total of 3 years working with the VA. If I am understanding correctly, the buy back program will do nothing for me unless I stay at least five years at the federal level. The other possible myth I was curious about is, once you have paid back your time, how does that affect the amount of paid time off you get on a yearly basis?
Thank you very much for taking the time to answer my questions.
You are correct. You need to have 5 years of actual FERS service to be eligible for an annuity. Unless your agency has made an error, you have already received credit for your active duty service in determining the amount of annual leave you earn each year.
If I buy back my time of 21 years service to go towards my civ ret and change my mind lets say 3 months after i pay the deposit. Can or will i get the full amount of my deposit back from the buy back.
Yes, you can and will.
I retired as an E8 after 21 years active duty in 1995. I entered civil service in 2009 as a GS11 and I’m planning on retiring in 2021 as a GS12 Step 8. Based upon my calculations it would not be cost effective.
Combine Military and Receive Separate Military
Civilian Career Retirement and FERS
Military Retirement $0.00 $26,604.00
(High Three = $91,727.00) $33,297.00 $11,007.24
(High-3 x 1.1% x 33 yrs.) (High-3 x 1% x 12 yrs.)
Total retirement $33,297.00 $37,611.24
Military Deposit $9,851.23 $0.00
Congratulations on having done your homework. You’ve set a good example for others who are considering whether to waive their military retired pay and make a deposit to get credit for their active duty service in their civilian annuity. Sometimes it’s a cost effective decision; other times it isn’t.
Does “SELLING BACK MILITARY TIME” effect the community property Entitlement that my ex-spouse receives?
If there is a court order that entitles your ex-spouse to any portion of your military retirement benefit, you’ll be barred from making a deposit to get credit for your active duty service in your civilian annuity.
Hi I was a USDA employee in 1990 when my National Guard unit was activated by a presidential call up. I was LWOP for less than 6 months, then came right back to my USDA job. Is that time creditable, or do I have to make a deposit? And if I do have to make a deposit, am I able to deposit by the alternate method where I only deposit the amount of my retirement contributions since I was reemployed with my agency? Thanks.
Since you didn’t say if you are covered by CSR or FERS, I’ll provide the answers for each retirement system.
If you are covered by CSRS (or CSRS Offset), and were first employed on or after October 1, 1982, you’ll only get retirement credit for that period of active duty service if you make a deposit for that time, including accrued interest. The amount of the deposit is 7 percent of your basic military pay (not allowances or differentials). If you were first employed before October 1, 1982, you can either make the deposit, plus accrued interest, or receive service credit for that time but have your annuity actuarially recomputed to eliminate that period of service.
If you are covered by FERS, you can only receive credit for that time if you make a deposit. That deposit equals 3 percent of your basic military pay (not allowances or differentials), plus accrued interest.
I did 17 years and 9 months with the Marine Corps and currently have 11 years with DCMA as a NH-03. I received medical severance when I got out. I am paying that severance back out of my VA Disability monthly. That severance wont affect me from buying my time back correct? Also if I wait longer to buy back my time, will it cost me more? or has the 11 years I waited already cost me more than if I would have bought it back when I first started?
The longer you wait to make a deposit, the more you’ll owe. That’s because interest is added annually. Assuming that you entered government service in 2010, the amount you initially owed would have been increased by the following amounts:
Although these individual increases are small, they really add up over time. To find out what you would owe today, you’ll need to complete OPM Form RI-20-97, Estimated Earnings During Military Service, and mail it to your military finance center with a copy of your DD Form 214, Report of Transfer or Discharge. When that estimate is returned to you, take it, a copy of your DD 214, and a Standard Form 3108 to your local payroll office and request an estimate of the amount you would owe. Once you know that and have determined what the difference would be in your annuity when you retire, you’ll have a better idea of whether or not to make that deposit. (You can download copies of RI-20-97 and SF 3108 by going to http://www.opm.gov and clicking on Forms.)
Great Q&A! I believe I’m the “lower enlisted” retiree situation you mentioned in the introduction.
2018, Retired after 20 yrs active duty. …as an E-5.
(Higher Tenure got me because I switched services and started from E-1 twice.)
Moving on, I am now a GS-12+ in Law Enforcement. With 2 years into FERS.
I’ve tried many “calc methods”, but find contradicting info on MRA and the special % for LEO retirement.
Buy-back is 1%, and use 1.7% for all my FERS LEO time?
You’ll need to have 20 years of actual LEO employment to qualify for the enhanced 1.7 percent multiplier when you retire. Active duty service for which you make a deposit will be calculated using the standard 1 percent multiplier.
I’m confused. Some people have said you can buy back mil time in order to add that time to fed retirement, but they still receive mil retirement. Others say they had to give up mil retirement to add that time to fed retirement. Which is it????
If you are receiving reserve retired pay, you can make a deposit to get credit for any periods of active duty service and still receive your unreduced reserve retired pay. If you are receiving military retired pay, with rare exception you’d have to not only make a deposit to get credit for that time but also waive your military retired pay when you retire. The only circumstance under which you wouldn’t have to waive your military retired pay is if that pay was awarded on account of a service-connected disability either incurred in combat with an enemy of the United States or caused by an instrumentality of war and incurred in the line of duty during a period of war.
I have 18 years of DOD civilian service (1/5/2004 start date) and I am a retired reservist who is currently drawing a retirement check. I bought back 5+ years of time from active duty up0on entry into DOD civilian service. Prior to reserve retirement. I am hoping to retire this year at age 62 (Oct 2022). Will my military time that I bought back be applied and give me the additional years of service to have 20 years of credible time for my FERS retirement? Thanks in advance for any information.
Yes, the active duty service for which you made a deposit will be added to your actual service and used in the computation of your FERS annuity when you retire.
As I understand, your buy-back time does not count for retirement eligibility, but only counts for annuity (pension) computation.
A FERS person is eligible for retirement with an immediate unreduced annuity at age 62 with 5 years of federal civilian service, 60 with 20 years, or MRA with 30 years.
Please answer the following 2 questions:
1. 01JAN2020 is my 45th birthday and I enter civilian service as a Department of Army civilian. Upon entering civilian service, I “buy back” 5 years of active duty military service and complete the SF 3107 stating that my SCDR is now 01JAN2015. I die on 02JAN2025 while still in civilian service. Is my spouse eligible for the survivor annuity benefit?
2. Using the scenario above and I don’t die– On 02JAN2035, I turn 60. Am I eligible for immediate retirement (60 years old with 20 years of service)?
The underlying question is regarding the “value” of the military buy back. Does it count for eligibility purposes for immediate retirement and for death benefits, or is it merely an addition to time calculated in the retirement annuity itself (like sick leave)?
As to your underlying question, active duty for which you’ve made a deposit is considered to be creditable service and will be used in determining your length of service and used in the computation of your annuity. So the answers to your two questions are as follows:
1. Your spouse would automatically be entitled to a survivor annuity.
2. At age 60 with 20 years of service, you would be eligible for an immediate, unreduced annuity.
I am a fed employee under FERS with 27 years with DHS (and INS) (95-present). I bought back my previous 8 years of active duty ( I served 4 years active duty in the Navy 91-95 and I served about 4 years active duty in the AF (ANG)). I plan to retire from my ANG unit at the end of the year, which will total 20 good years for retirement. Since I bought back those 8 active duty years for my DHS retirement, did I “lose” those 8 years for my prospective reserve retirement? Or is this a permissible type of double dipping? That is to say, the 8 years I bought back do not disappear from the total of my military active duty service for military reserve retirement.